Scam Report Against @CatProxies / CatProxies.com (Unpaid Work – 8000 EUR)

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@BossOfBosses Yes you can as we want deal disputes to be as transparent as possible, please refrain from posting and censor out any sensitive detail that may damage @CatProxies business.

For full transparency I have made a 2nd version with sensitive data removed. If you notice any other sensitive information in it which are not removed that's because the passwords are already changed by @CatProxies everywhere. Now everyone can see and decide for themself who is on the right no matter what the admins decide. Thanks to anyone taking the time to read it.

CatProxies Report

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I believe the amount of tasks that were not finished are worth way more than any small tasks I requested, like changing a text or adding a button; below you have a detailed list with answers to his bullshit arguments

I initially wanted to go on a monthly plan and asked for details, he offered me to have 3 devs to work on my project of about 25 tasks for a total of 8000$ ( WHICH I PAID IN FULL ) 

I would have agreed to even go to a monthly plan after everything is done, but considering his team broke the site and took more than 1-2 months to fix what they broke, the whole thing would have taken over 8 months to finish. I wished they could solve the bugs at least in a few days, it was not the case. This was not the service I was promised and not the service I agreed with initially. If anyone has to pay something, I would say he should pay for the damages and time lost.


https://justpaste.it/4r0uj

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I believe the amount of tasks that were not finished are worth way more than any small tasks I requested, like changing a text or adding a button; below you have a detailed list with answers to his bullshit arguments

I initially wanted to go on a monthly plan and asked for details, he offered me to have 3 devs to work on my project of about 25 tasks for a total of 8000$ ( WHICH I PAID IN FULL ) 

I would have agreed to even go to a monthly plan after everything is done, but considering his team broke the site and took more than 1-2 months to fix what they broke, the whole thing would have taken over 8 months to finish. I wished they could solve the bugs at least in a few days, it was not the case. This was not the service I was promised and not the service I agreed with initially. If anyone has to pay something, I would say he should pay for the damages and time lost.


https://justpaste.it/4r0uj

Please read everything below because it should be enough to make a decision on the case @Darkness

OGUser instantly banned @CatProxies after I sent them the details because it's a scam attempt. You can easily tell just from the fact that he changed all the passwords everywhere before telling me he wouldn't pay the invoices @Darkness. Now he is just trying to slow things down on Cracked by playing word games and wasting the admin's time.
Your Cracked will look really similar soon @CatProxies: Dey1337 | OGU

To clear the situation once and for all, nothing you said even matters. It took me 4 hours just to write a list of all the things in my previous list. Imagine the time it took to design & develop them. Maybe for you it's just a 5-minute task because that's all the time it took you to give us the task.

You literally just confirmed publicly that you are on the wrong by saying: "I initially wanted to go on a monthly plan." And that's exactly what we agreed upon since day 1. That's why the number of developers doesn't matter, the amount of tasks doesn't matter, and the delays don't matter. If you have any complaints about that, then feel free to leave a bad review, but it doesn't give you the right to choose not to pay for 2 months of work.

No, the offer I made you was not for 25 tasks for a specific deadline. The offer I made you was for 3 designers/developers in total to work for you full-time on a monthly basis. You know that really well, but you are just trying to act ignorant to save yourself some money, and I can prove that by the screenshots below, which I haven't shared until now. These screenshots are crucial and should instantly confirm your false claims because these are messages sent by you.

These chats were done yesterday. You can clearly see on the screenshot he sent that it says ESTIMATED before each sentence. That was just a calculation before we agreed upon a monthly basis deal

He is clearly playing word games and trying to put words in my mouth because it says: ESTIMATED maximum price & ESTIMATED maximum timeframe. So we never even had a fixed price or deadline. it was all calculations made by us because he wanted to have a general idea. This was before he added a list of like 45+ new tasks, which were out of scope. But even that doesn't and shouldn't matter on a monthly basis deal because if you are unhappy with the amount of tasks we do per month, then just pay what you bought and hire new developers. 

Now, even if we ignore everything we have said so far I managed to find one of the most useful screenshots for this report. Both me the admins and are wasting hours to get this resolved, while is crystal clear that you are trying to scam. Can you confirm the messages below are sent by you, @CatProxies? If not, I will get an admin to confirm that's you

It's literally you who said you will test the whole team with monthly payments to see how fast we can work on the first month. Since you already tested our package the first month and paid for it does it mean it was just as expected since you also paid for the 2nd month? If you are actually complaining about the speed or tasks finished why would you let us continue the development on the 3rd month? And why even let us continue for a 4th month? Probably because we didn't ask for the money on the 3rd and 4th month and you saw an opportunity to scam, right? You are just taking advantage of my goodwill and trust I had on you. You just noticed I was not collecting the payment and decided to get 2 more months our of it and now that I opened a scam report you are just trying to find stupid reasons on why you shouldn't pay. You literally had 3 months to decide you don't want to use our services and you decided to let us know on the 4th month. 

And I have countless screenshots that confirm monthly payments if one of them is not enough


Please explain the screenshot below to @Darkness. We sent you the monthly notice for the payment for May, and the date was 04/06/2025

That means that even after you paid the first 2 months you were notified about the invoice for the 3rd month right? If you thought the whole project would only cost 8000€ then why didn't you say anything at this point? You could have easily told us: Wait there is a misunderstanding I have already fully paid for the project for 8000€, why am I paying for the 3rd month? Right? 
That's not what you did. You ignored that and you let us continue the development for another 2 months. And only mention that you are not paying the invoices 2 months later once we already delivered another 8000€ worth of updates for your website.

Below is what you did instead. You waited until 05/07/2025 to tell us, "I am not going to pay the overdue invoices". This could have been said 2 months earlier, but you didn't say that because you wanted to steal the money and the work. You literally mention it yourself that "We'd finish everything in 2-3 months at €4000/month". Even if everything you have said so far is true, doesn't that mean you should at least pay for the 3rd month? You even mention below that you want to continue working at 2000€/month. Why would we continue to get 2000€ monthly payments if you already paid for all the tasks fully? You have contradicted yourself more than 5 times during all the screenshots I have sent. Please explain this to @Darkness. If you manage to find a good explanation for all of these screenshots, I will even refund you the 8000€ for the first 2 months.


What about the message below @CatProxies? Was that sent by you?


I would understand your point of view if you actually misunderstood the contract, but there is countless screenshots that prove you wrong.

Why did OGU ban you if you are on the right? Why did you change all the passwords to your admin account, server, domain, test accounts, and API keys if you are on the right? Why would you clear all the chats we had on Telegram where I had further proof? If I didn't kick you from the Discord ticket would you also delete the screenshots I have sent above?
Answer all these questions for me, and I will refund you all the payments you have made so far, just because of all the inconveniences created by me and my team.

Also about the link he sent with the 45 points that were out of the initial scope, I can explain each and every point in detail but that would be a waste of time. It's clear that the client has no idea how coding/designing works and has no idea what he is saying. Like, let me mention just one point for everyone to understand the level of misinformation and lack of knowledge from his side.

Can @CatProxies or anyone else explain how it saves me development time to make an automatic system that accepts/declines KYC documents instead of allowing the admin to manually click accept/deny? Even if you have 0 knowledge about coding, everyone should know that automatic systems take way more time to develop than doing the task manually. This is like saying Tesla saved time by building an autopilot system for their cars instead of allowing their clients to drive. 
I really don't want to go over the whole list but I can explain all 45 points if needed @Darkness. Out of 45 points mentioned, I think I can only agree with him for 1 point which is text editing and yeah, that actually took 5 minutes. Everything else on the list took time.

Please let's stop wasting everyone's time @Darkness, and let's get this scammer out of the community. We should both have better things to do. I have been part of Cracked for almost 6 years now, and no one has ever complained about my services.  My selling thread literally says: "We do good shit if the paycheck is equally good". So if you are poor and can't pay the invoices, just say that instead of acting as if our agency did any harm to your business. You are dragging us with you to your level with all your claims.
@Darkness, either ban him not that I found all the screenshots or let's open a GoFundMe or something, because he clearly can't afford our services and acts as if we hurt his business.

I really don't want to waste any more time on this because I have a business to run instead of dealing with this. It's clear that he is trying to scam, so just do what OGU did and ban him already because he clearly can't even afford to pay the invoices to continue advertising on Cracked. And I can even confirm this with the screenshots below. Just for what he said below, he should get banned:


After the discussion above, he deleted all the messages, but I already screenshotted everything. He literally confirmed that instead of paying his invoices, he would rather get banned and open his services again with a new name & interface. Which, if you still plan on doing that, I can easily scan your code and find similarities unless you code everything from 0. Who even gives you the right to delete messages and change the passwords? The messages literally act as a digital contract in this forum so you basically just burned all the evidence and that alone should be a reason to ban you, especially when you know you have a scam report ongoing with me. 

Just a message for you now, @CatProxies. No matter what the admins of Cracked decide to do with you, I am letting you know that I am willing to invest another 8000€ to hurt your business because I have never allowed anyone to steal from me and get away with it. Just to mention a few of the things I can if you don't pay the remaining invoices: I can file a small court claim against your registered company because I have your legal address. I can also report you to the local authorities about the taxes which has been paid for the last 2 months, even though your business was registered. I can leak your whole source code, leak your provider, leak your 1G plan bug, sell your database to crackers for dirt cheap and sell all your clients' e-mail to your competitors. I can also leak all your personal information and business information like addresses, passwords, API keys, country, business location etc. I can use some of the 8000€ budget to send you bad reviews on all your platforms, raid your Discord & Telegram channels. Also just to let you know I can decrypt your whole database to plain text. And I don't even have to DDOS your website because I still have access to a backdoor that can allow me to shut down your whole website. I am just waiting for the decision of @Darkness before I do any of this but I promise you won't get away with this. I literally have it on my daily plan to work towards your case daily. All of this can be avoided if you pay the invoices and you can continue to operate without any problems on all platforms. I can even get you unbanned from OGU if I receive the money.

Kind Regards,
The Paxerr Team

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1. You select only the messages you want to make it look in your favour ? Very fair and pro 

2. ogusers are a dead forum, I had 24h to reply and I have not checked that in 3 days, if somebody wouldn't have told me I would not even notice it. Also all admins are on vacation, so I won't expect any answer there anytime soon,  irrelevant

3. the devs matter, the tasks matter, the delays matter LOL

The MAXIMUM PRICE for the LIST OF TASKS I sent you was 8000 $ WHICH I PAID
you yourself mentioned MAXIMUM PRICE and MAXIMUM TIMEFRAME
Is it fair now that the maximum price is irrelevant and the time frame is not even close ? was that the initial deal ? NO

4. Add a button / change a text are not crucial tasks that will waste months. That is not the reason why you took 2 months just to fix some broken things.

5. BIG ONE:  This is the ss you sent in my chat yesterday before deleting it
https://i.ibb.co/Vh9Cpf5/image.png

I wanted to go on a monthly option before we started negotiating the deal. YOU suggested to get a team of 3 devs for 4000 USD for 2 months for a TOTAL of 8000 USD

Did you delete that because you thought it was a mistake ? Or do you want to show only what makes you look good ? Cut the negotiations part and reorder them as you like, the story is that we agreed on 2 months payment for a total of 8000 USD WHICH I PAID

https://ibb.co/JRdC62xZ
Or maybe you started to doubt your own words ? Had a moment of realization in between that you are not right ?

6. Why let you continue for 2 months ? Is it my bad it took you 2 months to fix what you broke to begin with ? It is your problem to assume if you "team" breaks something and needs 2 months to fix it. You want me to pay for 2 months of fixing stuff because someone is not capable to push an update properly or use a test server ? Stupid

7. Want to change order of conversation more and show only parts of text that make you look better ? Get hired in a newspaper maybe
You keep cutting parts from the negotiation stage to support your claims, who cares about logic and chronological order

8. A dev himself does not know he can set logs on discord. Crazy. I blocked you on telegram because you are crazy and won't stop spamming me. I changed my passwords because no matter how many times I tell you, you won't understand it is not like you dream it is. I don't want you to hurt MY site, so ofc I change them when you are no longer working on my project. A new dev was hired after you declined to understand what I said 2-3 times in a row. I realized it is a waste of time to explain it again, but there we are

9. When you write a list of 45 BULLSHIT arguments is fine, when I reply to them it is " a waste of time". Exactly fair argument in a dispute, not subjective at all

10. I am not broke, the new dev already has 1 month of payment paid. I will just not pay you because you are not right


MATTER OF FACT, I think YOU should pay me for the unfinished amount of tasks, for the lies of 3-7 devs working on my project, for the lies that fixing the bugs YOU created is a priority and will be finished fast, for the lies that a small part of tasks will be finished in time, for the time lost, for breaking the whole site for weeks, for breaking parts of the site for months

To begin with, can you do a full KYC verification with video included with all the dev team members who worked on my project showing exactly which parts they did or pushed along the time ? 

There is no digital contract, you are a kid on a forum. Nothing more. 

As I told you already, you should pay me instead, I already paid what I had to pay you.
Threatening words won't help your dispute here, just saying.


As for the last mentions: GL with discord proof in a legal court and proving identity. Public business address is public and in tos too. I already paid my taxes in full, thank you for worrying about me. My sourcecode is shit, any dev says that when they see it, nobody really wants to start from there. Most people already know my provider and still blame me for working with them sadly. The 1G bug is not really hurting my wallet as you already know, I do not pay for extra usage. People can reset passwords on site and most of them have temp mails. All passwords and api keys were changed, the rest of info is public. Nobody really cares about reviews on trustpilot, everyone is reporting my telegram and trying to ban it since the start of this year. Any endpoint vulnerabilities can be fixed in time. Ofc all your focus is on me because you have no other customers actually. And if you do, I hope they are happy when all you do is think about this dispute WHERE YOU ARE ALSO WRONG and too damn stupid to understand a simple point. 

P.S. Still waiting for @Darkness to read the PM I sent with some sensible information which can not even be censored as a reply here. It is very nice I promise.

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1. You select only the messages you want to make it look in your favour ? Very fair and pro 

2. ogusers are a dead forum, I had 24h to reply and I have not checked that in 3 days, if somebody wouldn't have told me I would not even notice it. Also all admins are on vacation, so I won't expect any answer there anytime soon,  irrelevant

3. the devs matter, the tasks matter, the delays matter LOL

The MAXIMUM PRICE for the LIST OF TASKS I sent you was 8000 $ WHICH I PAID
you yourself mentioned MAXIMUM PRICE and MAXIMUM TIMEFRAME
Is it fair now that the maximum price is irrelevant and the time frame is not even close ? was that the initial deal ? NO

4. Add a button / change a text are not crucial tasks that will waste months. That is not the reason why you took 2 months just to fix some broken things.

5. BIG ONE:  This is the ss you sent in my chat yesterday before deleting it
https://i.ibb.co/Vh9Cpf5/image.png

I wanted to go on a monthly option before we started negotiating the deal. YOU suggested to get a team of 3 devs for 4000 USD for 2 months for a TOTAL of 8000 USD

Did you delete that because you thought it was a mistake ? Or do you want to show only what makes you look good ? Cut the negotiations part and reorder them as you like, the story is that we agreed on 2 months payment for a total of 8000 USD WHICH I PAID

https://ibb.co/JRdC62xZ
Or maybe you started to doubt your own words ? Had a moment of realization in between that you are not right ?

6. Why let you continue for 2 months ? Is it my bad it took you 2 months to fix what you broke to begin with ? It is your problem to assume if you "team" breaks something and needs 2 months to fix it. You want me to pay for 2 months of fixing stuff because someone is not capable to push an update properly or use a test server ? Stupid

7. Want to change order of conversation more and show only parts of text that make you look better ? Get hired in a newspaper maybe
You keep cutting parts from the negotiation stage to support your claims, who cares about logic and chronological order

8. A dev himself does not know he can set logs on discord. Crazy. I blocked you on telegram because you are crazy and won't stop spamming me. I changed my passwords because no matter how many times I tell you, you won't understand it is not like you dream it is. I don't want you to hurt MY site, so ofc I change them when you are no longer working on my project. A new dev was hired after you declined to understand what I said 2-3 times in a row. I realized it is a waste of time to explain it again, but there we are

9. When you write a list of 45 BULLSHIT arguments is fine, when I reply to them it is " a waste of time". Exactly fair argument in a dispute, not subjective at all

10. I am not broke, the new dev already has 1 month of payment paid. I will just not pay you because you are not right


MATTER OF FACT, I think YOU should pay me for the unfinished amount of tasks, for the lies of 3-7 devs working on my project, for the lies that fixing the bugs YOU created is a priority and will be finished fast, for the lies that a small part of tasks will be finished in time, for the time lost, for breaking the whole site for weeks, for breaking parts of the site for months

To begin with, can you do a full KYC verification with video included with all the dev team members who worked on my project showing exactly which parts they did or pushed along the time ? 

There is no digital contract, you are a kid on a forum. Nothing more. 

As I told you already, you should pay me instead, I already paid what I had to pay you.
Threatening words won't help your dispute here, just saying.


As for the last mentions: GL with discord proof in a legal court and proving identity. Public business address is public and in tos too. I already paid my taxes in full, thank you for worrying about me. My sourcecode is shit, any dev says that when they see it, nobody really wants to start from there. Most people already know my provider and still blame me for working with them sadly. The 1G bug is not really hurting my wallet as you already know, I do not pay for extra usage. People can reset passwords on site and most of them have temp mails. All passwords and api keys were changed, the rest of info is public. Nobody really cares about reviews on trustpilot, everyone is reporting my telegram and trying to ban it since the start of this year. Any endpoint vulnerabilities can be fixed in time. Ofc all your focus is on me because you have no other customers actually. And if you do, I hope they are happy when all you do is think about this dispute WHERE YOU ARE ALSO WRONG and too damn stupid to understand a simple point. 

P.S. Still waiting for @Darkness to read the PM I sent with some sensible information which can not even be censored as a reply here. It is very nice I promise.

I don't even want to read what you said. I have nothing else to add. If the admins are still the same people I know, and this is not a big honeypot, then they should know what to do. I fully trust @Darkness & @Liars decision.

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@BossOfBosses Since there has been a significant delay compared to the initial deadline you have given to the user, it's not reasonable to request full payment. However, this doesn’t mean you won’t be compensated at all, as @CatProxies claims. Work has indeed been done throughout the site, including bug fixes left by previous devs. As for the issues from the provider(s), neither side can be held accountable as those are not foreseeable. When comparing the initial plan you've given to the user with the list of completed tasks you mentioned in your PM, it’s clear that several items within the initial list haven't been completed. Therefore, a 50% payment of the agreed amount is reasonable. You have laid out a plan to the user which you are fully entitled to follow and complete within the time frame you have given. Bumps along the way may occur, however such delay shouldn't be happening as user was agreeing to pay 2000EUR/month. Which may suggest that you might have been delaying the tasks in order to be paid more, even if that wasn't the case, it's clear that user has suffered loss in profit from the downtimes and the delays. @CatProxies Please pay OP 50%, 4000EUR, within 24hrs.

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so the guy asks for 8000 for 2 months for all the 25 tasks I mentioned, finishes about half of them, after 2 months he breaks my site and needs another 2 months just to fix what he broke

and now the funny part: with ONLY ONE PART TIME DEV since 1 june, not with a team as it was promised initially and on top of that AS A SECOND priority. He hired ONE GUY part time to fix the bugs his last dev created, A 2 HOURS A DAY JOB

FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS I HAD ONLY ONE GUY FIXING BUGS WORKING 2 HOURS A DAY. Mr Infiniti guy asked this dev to use his other time to work on his shit side project AS A PRIORITY OVER OUR SITE when he knew it is so fucked.

He owes this dev 800$ in total for all his work fixing bugs on catproxies in the past 2 months, alone.

You want me to fully pay him for a 1 dev working 2 hours a day for the past 2 months stalling time ? I do not think that is fair at all. Maybe there were never 3-7 devs as he initially promised, I can not know that, but since June 1 I know it for sure and I have proof.

I am offering to pay the 800$ he owes to the solo guy who worked 2 hours a day on my site. He does not deserve more.

All proof was sent to @Darkness in pm again, as I do not want to make the conversation public.